Another Vampire: The Masquerade Game

[DarkZephyr]

Just introduce me to a nice ghoulette and we are fine? XD XD XD

Making me miss Heather already :(

Aww sweet little Heather.  I will admit that the first time I played VtmB, I cried when a certain thing happened.  AND I was FILLED with rage.  My  Ventrue needed vengeance BADLY. 

[mdqp]

Making me miss Heather already :(

I really hope we can have another ghoul, and keep her/him safe this time around. I'd gladly fight an uphill battle and lose 20 xp points if I could have my "reasonably happy ending" with Heather. I loved her dialogues, especially when playing as a Malk (but then again, they are my favourite clan in general).

[DarkProphet]

Making me miss Heather already :(

I really hope we can have another ghoul, and keep her/him safe this time around. I'd gladly fight an uphill battle and lose 20 xp points if I could have my "reasonably happy ending" with Heather. I loved her dialogues, especially when playing as a Malk (but then again, they are my favourite clan in general).

Yeah, that would be fun. I would also like other personalities available for ghouls as well. Heather was an inept college student pulled into this world. In the World of Darkness, you can ghoul humans with military expertise, Hunters, business entrepreneurs, etc., and send your ghoul(s) out to do things for you during the day or night, or even take them with you for backup in fights.

[Highwayman667]

Yeah, that would be fun. I would also like other personalities available for ghouls as well. Heather was an inept college student pulled into this world. In the World of Darkness, you can ghoul humans with military expertise, Hunters, business entrepreneurs, etc., and send your ghoul(s) out to do things for you during the day or night, or even take them with you for backup in fights.

I'm pretty sure those articles that criticized BL1 for being a "male power fantasy" where pretty much directed at Heather xD

Which makes me wonder how ghouls will work in this game.

[DarkProphet]

Yeah, that would be fun. I would also like other personalities available for ghouls as well. Heather was an inept college student pulled into this world. In the World of Darkness, you can ghoul humans with military expertise, Hunters, business entrepreneurs, etc., and send your ghoul(s) out to do things for you during the day or night, or even take them with you for backup in fights.

I'm pretty sure those articles that criticized BL1 for being a "male power fantasy" where pretty much directed at Heather xD

Which makes me wonder how ghouls will work in this game.

Well, phrases like "male power fantasy" get games journalists highly aroused. Personally, I think it's sexist to assume woman-folk don't want blast the living shit out of people. After all...

[Highwayman667]

Well, phrases like "male power fantasy" get games journalists highly aroused. Personally, I think it's sexist to assume woman-folk don't want blast the living shit out of people. After all...

I don't think it's about that, but about how Heather truly acts like a submissive slave towards you. Sure, the mechanic is explained by the vampire vitae but it's not the only thing to back up how BL1 really is a male power fantasy of sorts.

[DarkProphet]

Well, phrases like "male power fantasy" get games journalists highly aroused. Personally, I think it's sexist to assume woman-folk don't want blast the living shit out of people. After all...

I don't think it's about that, but about how Heather truly acts like a submissive slave towards you. Sure, the mechanic is explained by the vampire vitae but it's not the only thing to back up how BL1 really is a male power fantasy of sorts.

I think it's a power fantasy, but I don't think it's exclusively a "male power fantasy." Women enjoyed the game and you can play as women. And those women can do some violent-ass stuff.

[fylimar]

Yeah, as a woman, I have no problem with the game. Granted, a few more nice male blood dolls would be great, but Romero is a much nicer blood doll, than all the rest :p
Bloodlines came out in a time, where many game protagonists were still male, so I was happy to be able to play a female. And yeah, being a big bad vampire is a nice thing, so I'm probably guilty of power fantasies too.
I sometimes cringed about all the women turning up in lingerie in the most unlikely places (Vv going to a meeting of the vampire society in underwear was one of the most cringe worthy scenes in the game), but I mostly was amused about that. If people need half naked other people in their games to enjoy them, who am I to spoil their fun.
But in the spirit of emancipation, I want half naked Beckett in Bloodlines 2 XD

[DarkProphet]

Yeah, as a woman, I have no problem with the game. Granted, a few more nice male blood dolls would be great, but Romero is a much nicer blood doll, than all the rest :p
Bloodlines came out in a time, where many game protagonists were still male, so I was happy to be able to play a female. And yeah, being a big bad vampire is a nice thing, so I'm probably guilty of power fantasies too.
I sometimes cringed about all the women turning up in lingerie in the most unlikely places (Vv going to a meeting of the vampire society in underwear was one of the most cringe worthy scenes in the game), but I mostly was amused about that. If people need half naked other people in their games to enjoy them, who am I to spoil their fun.
But in the spirit of emancipation, I want half naked Beckett in Bloodlines 2 XD

Lmao! I never once thought about VV being underdressed at that meeting. You're totally right, though. XD

As for the "male power fantasy" thing, I think they should've just said "we are making a lot more options for everyone in this game" or something like that. Clearly it's not perfect, but at least it doesn't have that "FUCK MEN!!!" tone to it.

[Wesp5]

Lmao! I never once thought about VV being underdressed at that meeting. You're totally right, though. XD

I think there is even a mod to dress her up in that scene, but in my opinion she does this on purpose to piss LaCroix and the Camarilla off. She is very much an Anarch and even blows Strauss a kiss to provoke him :)!

[fylimar]

Lmao! I never once thought about VV being underdressed at that meeting. You're totally right, though. XD

I think there is even a mod to dress her up in that scene, but in my opinion she does this on purpose to piss LaCroix and the Camarilla off. She is very much an Anarch and even blows Strauss a kiss to provoke him :)!

Still, that scene with Vv in her underpants is hilarious, I couldn't take her serious after that. I must say, that I'm biased, since VV is the character I like the least in that game and nowadays, I really love to piss her off

[Wesp5]

Still, that scene with VV in her underpants is hilarious, I couldn't take her serious after that.

Well, I have never been to LA, but in the game many prostitutes work the streets looking similar, so why should VV bother to change for such a meeting?

[fylimar]

Still, that scene with VV in her underpants is hilarious, I couldn't take her serious after that.

Well, I have never been to LA, but in the game many prostitutes work the streets looking similar, so why should VV bother to change for such a meeting?

Don't, know, maybe because she isn't a hooker on the street, but attending an official meeting? Maybe she did it on purpose like you said, to piss off Lacroix, I still find it a bit strange

[Nanaloma]

Lmao! I never once thought about VV being underdressed at that meeting. You're totally right, though. XD

I think there is even a mod to dress her up in that scene, but in my opinion she does this on purpose to piss LaCroix and the Camarilla off. She is very much an Anarch and even blows Strauss a kiss to provoke him :)!

Still, that scene with Vv in her underpants is hilarious, I couldn't take her serious after that. I must say, that I'm biased, since VV is the character I like the least in that game and nowadays, I really love to piss her off

Susan (VV) just plain irritates me, regardless.  Then again, she's a Toreador so she's supposed to be irritating.   As you can guess by the "Susan" thing, I too love pissing her off.  Now, about the Beckett thing, I think that seduction should be allowed for the male player (well not Nossies or Malks if the male looks as ridiculous as the male Maulk does in BL1).  I'm a straight male but I prefer playing BL1 in the female role.  I was never at all comfortable with seduction.  It would have been fun playing it as a male, though and I may have done so then more then the three or so times that I did.  The game really was sexist for not having male "dancers", etc but, at the time it came out, doing so would have likely sunk it's sales.  Everything homosexual in nature were female/female too.  I wasn't comfortable with that playing as a female and the same would have been true if playing as a male but there are others who would like that.  As long as it wasn't required or would lose one some EPs it would be fine with me.  A lot of things have changed in, what, fifteen years?

[Highwayman667]

I think it's a power fantasy, but I don't think it's exclusively a "male power fantasy." Women enjoyed the game and you can play as women. And those women can do some violent-ass stuff.

There's no reason why women can't enjoy male power fantasies too. The arguments are not mutually exclusive.